If you plan on retaining the GP control system and the IPC, you will not save any work by trying to use a universal wiring harness, I guarantee.cseger1 wrote:I have been thinking hard about getting one of those "Painless" wiring harnesses that they build for hot rods. It would be hugely labor intensive but at least I'd know what was what.
Wiring Butchered!! Need Help
Moderators: plenzen, Nissan_Ranger
- asavage
- Site Admin
- Posts: 5431
- Joined: 18 years ago
- Location: Oak Harbor, Wash.
- Contact:
Regards,
Al S.
1982 Maxima diesel wagon, 2nd & 4th owner, 165k miles, rusty & burgundy/grey. Purchased 1996, SOLD 16Feb10
1983 Maxima diesel wagon, 199k miles, rusty, light yellow/light brown. SOLD 14Jul07
1981 720 SD22 (scrapped 04Sep07)
1983 Sentra CD17, 255k, bought 06Jul08, gave it away 22Jun10.
Al S.
1982 Maxima diesel wagon, 2nd & 4th owner, 165k miles, rusty & burgundy/grey. Purchased 1996, SOLD 16Feb10
1983 Maxima diesel wagon, 199k miles, rusty, light yellow/light brown. SOLD 14Jul07
1981 720 SD22 (scrapped 04Sep07)
1983 Sentra CD17, 255k, bought 06Jul08, gave it away 22Jun10.
-
- Posts: 122
- Joined: 17 years ago
- Location: Houston TX
IPC and GPC are both already gone. The alt is putting out 11.3 V. I have been running in total loss mode with a recharge every night. How bad an idea is that? Only until the new alt arrives. Also, should I plug the low voltage alt back in or is it a drain if its less than 13V?
Christian
1981 720 SD22
1981 720 SD22
- asavage
- Site Admin
- Posts: 5431
- Joined: 18 years ago
- Location: Oak Harbor, Wash.
- Contact:
In that case, I'd look for a used harness from a donor truck. I had one, but just sold it to Andy in AZ for his truck that had melted wiring; I don't have another one. But they're around.cseger1 wrote:IPC and GPC are both already gone.
Hard on lead/acid batteries, which do not like being deep discharged. Anecdotally, ~32 dead/charge cycles = pretty much kills a non-deep-cycle battery. Don't know if that's true, it's just what I've heard.The alt is putting out 11.3 V. I have been running in total loss mode with a recharge every night. How bad an idea is that?
My experience is that even if the diodes crack (as I showed in the pics in the link above), they still will function as "check valves", so I'd leave it plugged in. The three old Hitachi alternators that had the symptom you describe, that I've seen personally, would output less than ten amps, which is better than nothing. Won't run headlights or wipers and keep up, but might help with turn signal draw etc., extending usable run time.should I plug the low voltage alt back in or is it a drain if its less than 13V?
If you don't have to turn in a core, don't throw away your bad alternator. I can use it for parts.
Regards,
Al S.
1982 Maxima diesel wagon, 2nd & 4th owner, 165k miles, rusty & burgundy/grey. Purchased 1996, SOLD 16Feb10
1983 Maxima diesel wagon, 199k miles, rusty, light yellow/light brown. SOLD 14Jul07
1981 720 SD22 (scrapped 04Sep07)
1983 Sentra CD17, 255k, bought 06Jul08, gave it away 22Jun10.
Al S.
1982 Maxima diesel wagon, 2nd & 4th owner, 165k miles, rusty & burgundy/grey. Purchased 1996, SOLD 16Feb10
1983 Maxima diesel wagon, 199k miles, rusty, light yellow/light brown. SOLD 14Jul07
1981 720 SD22 (scrapped 04Sep07)
1983 Sentra CD17, 255k, bought 06Jul08, gave it away 22Jun10.
- philip
- Deceased
- Posts: 1494
- Joined: 18 years ago
- Location: Southern California, USA
Lead / acid batteries of the high discharge (shorter time period) design survive fewer full discharge cycles. Varta vs Yuasa motorcycle batteries a well known comparison. Vartas for cold weather but replace every 12-18 months.asavage wrote:SNIP- Hard on lead/acid batteries, which do not like being deep discharged. Anecdotally, ~32 dead/charge cycles = pretty much kills a non-deep-cycle battery. Don't know if that's true, it's just what I've heard.
-Philip
Passed 08May2008
My friend, you are missed . . .
1982 Datsun 720KC SD-22
"Im slow and I'm ahead of you"
Passed 08May2008
My friend, you are missed . . .
1982 Datsun 720KC SD-22
"Im slow and I'm ahead of you"
-
- Posts: 122
- Joined: 17 years ago
- Location: Houston TX
I did a little experiment. Not by choice. I got caught out tonight 100 mi. from home (one of those wonderful kinked water hoses gave up) and had to plug the alt back in. The lights worked on batt alone for about 50 miles and then got really dim. I tested the batt and got 11.2. With the alt plugged in it went to 11.8 and held there til I got home. Lights were OK for the rest of the trip.
As far as the core goes, I am going to have it rebuilt for later. I don't get a great feeling about the one from ebay.
As far as the core goes, I am going to have it rebuilt for later. I don't get a great feeling about the one from ebay.
Christian
1981 720 SD22
1981 720 SD22
- asavage
- Site Admin
- Posts: 5431
- Joined: 18 years ago
- Location: Oak Harbor, Wash.
- Contact:
Just so long as you're not tossing it
Regards,
Al S.
1982 Maxima diesel wagon, 2nd & 4th owner, 165k miles, rusty & burgundy/grey. Purchased 1996, SOLD 16Feb10
1983 Maxima diesel wagon, 199k miles, rusty, light yellow/light brown. SOLD 14Jul07
1981 720 SD22 (scrapped 04Sep07)
1983 Sentra CD17, 255k, bought 06Jul08, gave it away 22Jun10.
Al S.
1982 Maxima diesel wagon, 2nd & 4th owner, 165k miles, rusty & burgundy/grey. Purchased 1996, SOLD 16Feb10
1983 Maxima diesel wagon, 199k miles, rusty, light yellow/light brown. SOLD 14Jul07
1981 720 SD22 (scrapped 04Sep07)
1983 Sentra CD17, 255k, bought 06Jul08, gave it away 22Jun10.
- asavage
- Site Admin
- Posts: 5431
- Joined: 18 years ago
- Location: Oak Harbor, Wash.
- Contact:
Only if your going to use an inverter, or your TV can tolerate humpy DC. Or if you add a battery bank for some filtering.cseger1 wrote:No way. I am a recycling freak. I have one out of my 63 Buick that is going on a windmill to power my television.
That Delco alternator I am extremely familiar with: I used to rework them to make them positive ground for use in conversions (mostly older British cars). You can't get single phase AC from them (though you can get 3-ph).
Regards,
Al S.
1982 Maxima diesel wagon, 2nd & 4th owner, 165k miles, rusty & burgundy/grey. Purchased 1996, SOLD 16Feb10
1983 Maxima diesel wagon, 199k miles, rusty, light yellow/light brown. SOLD 14Jul07
1981 720 SD22 (scrapped 04Sep07)
1983 Sentra CD17, 255k, bought 06Jul08, gave it away 22Jun10.
Al S.
1982 Maxima diesel wagon, 2nd & 4th owner, 165k miles, rusty & burgundy/grey. Purchased 1996, SOLD 16Feb10
1983 Maxima diesel wagon, 199k miles, rusty, light yellow/light brown. SOLD 14Jul07
1981 720 SD22 (scrapped 04Sep07)
1983 Sentra CD17, 255k, bought 06Jul08, gave it away 22Jun10.
-
- Posts: 726
- Joined: 18 years ago
- Location: East Tennessee
At what voltage and current I wonder?asavage wrote:Only if your going to use an inverter, or your TV can tolerate humpy DC. Or if you add a battery bank for some filtering.cseger1 wrote:No way. I am a recycling freak. I have one out of my 63 Buick that is going on a windmill to power my television.
That Delco alternator I am extremely familiar with: I used to rework them to make them positive ground for use in conversions (mostly older British cars). You can't get single phase AC from them (though you can get 3-ph).
Matt B.
83 Maxima Sedan, LD28, 5 speed, white, 130k miles. My original Maxima.
83 Maxima Sedan converted from gasser, LD28, 5 speed, 2 tone blue, 230k miles
82 Maxima Sedan, LD28, 3 speed auto, 2 tone Gray/Silver, 140k miles
81 810 Sedan, LD28, 3 speed auto, rust, rust, and more rust!
2005 Jeep Liberty CRD
83 Maxima Sedan, LD28, 5 speed, white, 130k miles. My original Maxima.
83 Maxima Sedan converted from gasser, LD28, 5 speed, 2 tone blue, 230k miles
82 Maxima Sedan, LD28, 3 speed auto, 2 tone Gray/Silver, 140k miles
81 810 Sedan, LD28, 3 speed auto, rust, rust, and more rust!
2005 Jeep Liberty CRD
- asavage
- Site Admin
- Posts: 5431
- Joined: 18 years ago
- Location: Oak Harbor, Wash.
- Contact:
Hmmm? Is this a Q I can answer? I don't understand it.goglio704 wrote:At what voltage and current I wonder?
The lowest-capacity 10DN alternator that I recall was either 35a or 37a (non-A/C applications), and pretty much any time I took one apart, I swapped in the higher-cap 63a rotor if I had one around.
I don't recall the voltage at which the alternator's current rating is taken. It's typically at the 14v level or thereabouts. If you drop the output voltage a couple of volts, you can really see some heavy current -- for a while! At full load, alternators can have a hard time shedding heat fast enough.
Regards,
Al S.
1982 Maxima diesel wagon, 2nd & 4th owner, 165k miles, rusty & burgundy/grey. Purchased 1996, SOLD 16Feb10
1983 Maxima diesel wagon, 199k miles, rusty, light yellow/light brown. SOLD 14Jul07
1981 720 SD22 (scrapped 04Sep07)
1983 Sentra CD17, 255k, bought 06Jul08, gave it away 22Jun10.
Al S.
1982 Maxima diesel wagon, 2nd & 4th owner, 165k miles, rusty & burgundy/grey. Purchased 1996, SOLD 16Feb10
1983 Maxima diesel wagon, 199k miles, rusty, light yellow/light brown. SOLD 14Jul07
1981 720 SD22 (scrapped 04Sep07)
1983 Sentra CD17, 255k, bought 06Jul08, gave it away 22Jun10.
-
- Posts: 726
- Joined: 18 years ago
- Location: East Tennessee
Sorry for the cryptic question. I was wondering out loud about the three phase AC output voltage and continuous current capability of the 63 amp Delco alternator.
Matt B.
83 Maxima Sedan, LD28, 5 speed, white, 130k miles. My original Maxima.
83 Maxima Sedan converted from gasser, LD28, 5 speed, 2 tone blue, 230k miles
82 Maxima Sedan, LD28, 3 speed auto, 2 tone Gray/Silver, 140k miles
81 810 Sedan, LD28, 3 speed auto, rust, rust, and more rust!
2005 Jeep Liberty CRD
83 Maxima Sedan, LD28, 5 speed, white, 130k miles. My original Maxima.
83 Maxima Sedan converted from gasser, LD28, 5 speed, 2 tone blue, 230k miles
82 Maxima Sedan, LD28, 3 speed auto, 2 tone Gray/Silver, 140k miles
81 810 Sedan, LD28, 3 speed auto, rust, rust, and more rust!
2005 Jeep Liberty CRD
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests