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Post Number:#1  PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:07 am 
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Due to a move, I needed AWD, so I sold off the '93 Aero and picked up a '97 Aero with e4WD.

The negative battery terminal was cracked, and I'm trying out a different method to repair it. NAPA No. NW728079, $10.88 (2012).

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This might work for me and the + term on my Nissan.
Does it come in different sizes ?
I mean for where the wires fit into the "compression" part?
There are a total of 4 wires on the one battery( I have two batteries).
Just wondering if you would have had room for 1 more ( of the smaller ones) in the one you used

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should be alright if its tight.

other thing is sealing it up to stop any corosion.
they put a grease type sealer in the crimp on units we use at work.

pugeot in 70's/80's had a 2 piece bell shape with a wingnut on top.
you tightened the bell clamping bare wire to the post.

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Post Number:#4  PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:54 pm 
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plenzen wrote:
This might work for me and the + term on my Nissan.
Does it come in different sizes ?

Hi, Paul:

It comes in different sizes, yes. I believe that that particular NAPA part No. is for 1-2ga cable. My main cable is 2ga (I think) and I was able to wedge two more 10ga ground wires beside it, barely.

I would not have had room for one more 10ga wire in this setup, no. And while I had some difficulty wedging in those two extra small wires, it did not clamp up quite as tight as I'd have wished, but it's still pretty darned secure.

I got the idea to ask NAPA about these, because I'd picked up a couple similar ones (with ring terminals) at last year's Portland Auto Swap Meet (the guy had a whole bin full of them, $1.00 a piece), with the idea I'd use them somewhere, but they're for 4ga anyway.

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Now that I look at the packaging, I see that the NAPA parts are re-badged Quick Cable Corporation products. And that I can buy them in Positive, Negative, or Universal clamp styles. I'm pretty sure that the one I got from NAPA is a universal, as it does not fit the negative post as well as one might wish.

There are lots of cable sizes accommodated; see their web page at http://www.quickcable.com/products.php?pageId=326 . Below is a partial screenshot from there:
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These are nice products, all brass, and made in the US for a change. I agree with Dave, that corrosion is probably still an issue with these. Mainly, I'll be happy if they work better than the typical universal clamp style that we all have used and hated; I never seem to get more than a year or sometimes two from them before they're crapped out.

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I am wondering if you could solder them into the ends where the compression piece goes.
They say they are brass and the solder would melt sooner than the brass, but you would have to be careful.

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i have a crimping kit but that looks good.

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If you're talking about soldering the wire into the fitting, that should work, but as I understand it, there can be issues: The solder tends to wick back up the wire a bit and at the point it stops it creates a stress riser because the wire with solder is stiff and hard but at the point the solder stops (abruptly), that's where the wire always wants to bend (sharply, right at that point). This can lead to early failure of the cable right there. Also, at least officially, solder connections are not considered reliable - you must have made a complete mechanical connection before soldering and a crimp by itself is considered better than a crimp with solder. Eg. the last time I checked (about 5 years ago) Coast Guard will not accept solder connections on boats they certify; the connection must be crimped.

Al probably knows a lot more about soldering, though and he can probably clarify.

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soldering.
that could cause mechanical fatigue but you wouldnt want the wiring vibrating that much.also you have to look at corrosion caused by different metals or the cleaning flux.often come across copper wiring soldered or brassed[sp?]as its to soft to crimp.

very rare that you can actually solder the battery terminal to the wire.maybe if both are tinned or the terminal is brass.
often with modern coated metals the solder wont stick to the surface but fill up the spaces.long ago winch cables had the ends soldered before being drawn back into the ends and crushed with wedges.it may have been lead.

most of the cable ends i replace are due to heat as they become loose because of corrosion.my practice of soldering the end of the cable before its crimped apears to work-but im working on automotive vehicles that at worst will be washed with bore water or river crossings.
i also do not do it with aircraft or marine as ther operate in high humidity but automotive isnt the same.

my air force mates inject rust proofing sealant into the ends of the wires.
marine and auto electric people have showed me the same.
recently i saw a device being sold to grease hand brake cables-a mate had one similar to force liquid into cables before crimping.we dip the ends of the cables in a electrical grease before fitting terminals to keep water out of the cables.at the car dealerships we used vasoline or lanoline it works very good.

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never had to replace wiring on earth moving gear except that had been dammaged by trees.car stuff and trailers are always getting repaired/replaced as they are lighter quality of wire.with these electronic controlled cars using digital signals they are just crap.

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solder the wire end before putting the end on.it should stop the cable being cut off.

the way it works is to squash the wire with the nut.

if you hit modern cable on the bench it cuts easily.by adding a bigger area to be compressed it shold last longer.

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Despite my revisiting this terminal twice in the past four months, it never held tightly over the long haul. Today, I isolated it, hit it with the propane torch, and soldered it.

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The solder joint has held up well. The location is such that these terminals don't flex much, if at all.

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1983 Maxima diesel wagon, 199k miles, rusty, light yellow/light brown. SOLD 14Jul07
1981 720 SD22 (scrapped 04Sep07)
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I have a whole boxfull of Frantz toilet paper bypass oil filter setups somewhere, and at least three Motor Guard units, but I've gotten lazy in my old age have never gotten around to installing any of them :(

So I did the lazy thing: I ordered the AMSOil dual-filter setup that includes a full-flow filter and a bypass filter setup. Apparently, you have to order this setup à la carte, so it's customised on-the-fly. The basic setup is plumbed like this:
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I plan on installing it on the right frame rail. I specified the optional oil sample valve (so I can draw off oil for periodic lab testing).


Part No.    Description	                        Qty     Price   Al's notes               
BMK23-EA Dual Remote Mounting Kit 1 208.50 The base universal mount kit with hoses, fittings etc.
The base mount without the rest of the kit is BK309
BK295-EA Spin On Adapter 1 44.95 Adapter in place of the stock oil filter.
This one is 3/4"-16 UNF for my Ford 4.0l OHV. A common size.
G1570-EA Oil Sample Valve 1 22.35 This is the "deluxe", button-operated valve,
with the screw-on discharge cover.
BP209-EA Adapter Fitting, 3/4"-16 to 1/4" NPT 1 4.00 The adapter for the sample valve above.
EABP90-EA Absolute Efficiency By-Pass 1 29.30 The smallest/shortest bypass filter. One quart capacity.
EAO15-EA Absolute Efficiency Oil Filter 1 14.25 A standard full-flow filter, by AMSOil.
IDK if it's worth the price, but I'm going to try it.
KIT06-EA OAI Non-Postage Paid Kit 1 17.95 An oil sampling kit for lab testing of used oil.


That list came to around $380 shipped and taxed. It's not particularly simple to figure out what to order; I'll have to see if I did it correctly.

I purposely ordered the smallest (shortest) bypass filter, a one-quart capacity unit, as I'm uncertain if I'll have enough vertical clearance for the 1.5 or 2 quart versions.

AMSOil has a wide selection of adapters & special fittings for various installation situations, but you pretty much need to do your own research on what you'll need. My install ought to be darned simple.

The OEM recommendation for oil changes is 7500 miles in normal use, which is mostly how I drive it these days (55 miles/day commute). When using AMSOil's Signature Series oil and their full-flow filter, they say you can run 25k OCIs (oil change intervals). With the bypass setup, and figuring a make-up oil rate of 1/2 quart per 5k miles (that's the current rate on this engine), I don't know that I'll ever need to change the oil again. Being conservative, I will probably change one or both filters annually anyway, just to feel like I'm doing something, but is it necessary? IDK.

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1983 Maxima diesel wagon, 199k miles, rusty, light yellow/light brown. SOLD 14Jul07
1981 720 SD22 (scrapped 04Sep07)
1983 Sentra CD17, 255k, bought 06Jul08, gave it away 22Jun10.


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Post Number:#13  PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 1:50 pm 
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I got a P1744 a month ago. The torque converter clutch had died. This had happened on my '89 Aero too, which I drove until the clutch material plugged up the filter and the trans lost hydraulic pressure and stopped moving. The newer Aeros use an electronically controlled version of the same venerable A4LD, which they now call the 5R55E (in my case), and the electronics can tell that when the AT is told to lock the torque converter clutch, the RPMs should drop. When they don't, I get a CEL and a P1744.

Since this is an AWD rig, there's a transfer case. I am in my 50s now and while I've done several R&Rs of A4LDs in my various Aeros over the years, this is a different critter. I chickened out: I rented a bay in a self-service garage. Unfortunately, it's 1.5 hours away, but my AAA RV coverage handled that part nicely. Two days, $300 of bay rental and about double that in a torque converter, ATF, seals, tools, AT cooler flush, lunches, etc. and it's back on the road and I've got 1000 miles on it with no problems.

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What with the towing and travel time, this took two days, and though I'd wanted to replace the engine rear main seal while the trans was out, there just wasn't sufficient energy or time. I even had the sleeve kit and seal with me :(

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1983 Maxima diesel wagon, 199k miles, rusty, light yellow/light brown. SOLD 14Jul07
1981 720 SD22 (scrapped 04Sep07)
1983 Sentra CD17, 255k, bought 06Jul08, gave it away 22Jun10.


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So you didn't really "chicken out".
You just elected to not do it whilst lying on the floor.
Chickening out would be to get a transmission shop to do it for you.
Lying on the cold floor and doing this while being 1/2 century+ old would be just plain silly.

Good on you for tackling the job..........even in your advanced years :wink:

I have a 97 AWD T&C that I would really like to change the fluids in.
Chrysler in their wisdom did not put drain plugs in either the transfer case or the clutch drive thingy they have attached to it and the diff unit at the rear of the vehicle. Only fill holes to check level and add to if needed.
I will have to use a syringe or vacuum lift/venturi type of device to suck the fluids out.

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You could turn the rig on its side to drain the fluid. Gravity works ;)

IIRC, there's a seal on the transfer case on your model that is something like 7 hours flat rate to R&R.

The transfer case on the Aerostar AWD is a Dana 28, and it has a nice, big drain plug.

The front diff on the Aero is a Dana 28 IFS. It has an aluminum case and no drain plug, and it's not really feasible to casually remove the front diff cover. I use the Mity-Vac on it. It doesn't hold much fluid.

Both the front diff & the transfer case use ATF as a lubricant.

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1983 Maxima diesel wagon, 199k miles, rusty, light yellow/light brown. SOLD 14Jul07
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1983 Sentra CD17, 255k, bought 06Jul08, gave it away 22Jun10.


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