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what's the best RPM to cruise

 
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philip1



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:33 am    Post subject: what's the best RPM to cruise Reply with quote

I'm looking at this from a fuel milage standpoint so heres the question. Is it better to cruise at the torque peak or stay below it?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been told that the lowest rpm that a internal combustion engine can pull and still keep the vehicle moving at the wanted speed with out surging or shuttering will give the best mpg. The less you use- the better the mileage. comments?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would say the best mileage achieved would in a diesel is whatever rpm results in the least amount of pedal down. Will say nearly the same for a gasser as well

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kassim503 wrote:
i would say the best mileage achieved would in a diesel is whatever rpm results in the least amount of pedal down. Will say nearly the same for a gasser as well

A problem with that theory:
Assume a fixed accelerator position. Other factors being equal, an engine will use less fuel at 1x RPM than at 2X RPM. Even if the accelerator position is the same, the higher RPM engine will use more fuel.

IOW, throttle position alone is too limiting a factor in determining the most fuel-efficient RPM to run.

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Just something to toy with your head: in a throttled engine, the pumping losses go down as the intake throttle is opened: the engine becomes a better air pump, and less of the engine's power is used to maintain a vacuum in the intake. One reason why gasser EGR systems don't kill off MPG as much as you might think: EGR opens, combustion efficiency drops, power drops, driver opens throttle to compensate loss of power, pumping losses reduced, overall efficiency is not as bad as you thought it would be.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do we have brake specific fuel consumption data on the sd22?

IIRC many diesels use the least amount of fuel when producing the most amount of torgue. so some would say that cruising speed should be just above peak torgue so when a climb begins rpm's drop and torque increases therefore ascentablility is maintained. on a 6.2/6.5l gm/detroit diesel brake specific fuel consumption is least at peak torque at 1850rpms

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for clarifying that idea Al, I wasnt really thinking of rpm's which is a major factor in fuel consumption

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