LD20T-II pics and more questions

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LD20T-II pics and more questions

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The LD20T-II was received last week. Pics below. But a couple questions first.

There is a vacuum pump on the back of the alternator. I assume it must be used for accessories, which means I have no use for it so I plan to get rid of it, unless someone knows of another reason the engine needs it.

The engine also has an oil cooler as part of the filter assembly. Is this really necessary? Lots of extra plumbing and it may be in the way of the motor mount. I can see an oil cooler for a truck hauling heavy loads but we are putting this into a car. Is there any need for it?

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The vacuum pump can be useful for power brakes, and if you have A/C, to run the various mode doors. If you don't run a brake booster, the pump comes off the alternator with three screws (typically No. 2 Philips head). However, the rotor's shaft will be hanging out in the breeze. Keep your hands away!

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This last pic is of the 720 PU version of the alternator, which has a smaller vacuum pump and thus a shorter rotor, but it gives you some scale.
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Oh, and member zoomsplatt cut down his LR160 rotor, to fit the longer rotor to the shorter 720 vacuum pump, so you could cut yours flush. His pics are in this post. Don't throw away the pump; while they don't seem to wear out, a couple folks have broken theirs, or otherwise needed one recently.

On the engine oil cooler: all the Nissan diesels I've seen have one, even the little SD22s and CD17s. Also, the gasser turbo engines have them. Yeah, they're plumbed so it's a mess, but I have to assume that Nissan thought a lot of them, since they used them on any application that even might get the oil hot.

It'll run without the oil cooler. I don't think it's a good idea, though. You could remotely locate a cooler, but that won't make the plumbing any better.

Interesting IP layout, esp. in the area where the CSD would be. Has a lever for a manual fast idle + base timing advance. You probably won't need to hook it up, my '82 Wagon has had a frozen CSD for at least 12 years, and I only miss the fast idle in the dead of winter.

Judging from the accessory belts, it's been steam cleaned within an inch of its life :)

Not knowing the miles on it, you'll want to budget replacement of the cam belt soonest. It if breaks or strips a cog, on diesels it's "Goodbye, engine". All OHC diesels are interference engines.
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I just found a couple pics of an LR160 (Maxima/LD28) without the pump attached.

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OIL cooler-
should be able to fit the cooler element to a standard remote filter mount.obtain or make a thread extension for the block and the remote mount.remove the adaptor screwed into the block to suit the alloy casting you will see when you unbolting the alloy cast from the blockyou will then see the same block casting used in L and Z engines.

the oil filter looks to be a modern bypass type-N5012,it will be fine without this system but the drilled hole for the return in the block will have to be sealed as it is outside the oring circle of a filter.

I didnt bother but nissans normally have a filter bypass valve pressed in to the block--when not used this is pluged with a disc.I can buy a filter cheep that has a valve internally.these ballbearing valves often fallout and can be purchased from nissan.

the cooler is actualy an oil heater.more common on engines used in slow traffic or with automatics or cold climates.it is used to get it to a normal temp then hold it there.the cooler's hot water is supplied from the back of the cyl head-prob 80% of the temp at the t/stat outlet-is pumped past the oil-hopefully getting it to a steady 80C.in very cold climates heating oil to get the crank-pistons etc up to optimum temp.in slow traffic or taxi mode the engine struggles to produce enough heat.

the water then returns to the water pump-to be parrallel with the bypass circuit.i restrict the bypass on my cars to force water throgh these extra circuits.-the heater also also uses water from the same point in parralel.when the engine is up to normal heat the t/stat opens and water flow in the cooler is reduced so its not realy a cooler.a heater core could be fitted in front of the radiator and a thermostator heater tap used to cool the water if a cooler is needed.

MY LD20II from factory has no cooler or oil squirters.the oil filter -H8904[-H8911] is similar but inched forward.i had problems getting the engine to warm up.the 910 bluebird has a full size copper radiator and diesels often have extra row to the core.the vanette has a tiny radiator and the fan is almost locked.
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davehoos wrote:the oil filter looks to be a modern bypass type-N5012,it will be fine without this system but the drilled hole for the return in the block will have to be sealed as it is outside the oring circle of a filter.
If that oil filter is the later combined full-flow/bypass type, it would be very desirable to retain that, as the bypass section of the filter does a very good job of keeping the oil much cleaner than the full-flow alone. See this post for more information.
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1983 Maxima diesel wagon, 199k miles, rusty, light yellow/light brown. SOLD 14Jul07
1981 720 SD22 (scrapped 04Sep07)
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UK LD20II for sale on ebay.
note engine mount difference and air intake.
similar car to U12 stanza.
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