"affordable" IP rebuild

[240ZD]

Hey I think I found out to whom all the local diesel repair shops outsource their IP pump rebuilds.

In SE Portland is a shop called "Diesel Fuel Injection Service," where I was quoted about $550 for a rebuild and biofuel-capable reseal, turnaround about 3-4 days.

They'll be entrusted with the health of my IP this month, and I'll let ya'll know how it turns out!

-samee

[asavage]

I would enjoy a review. $550 is about 2/3s to 1/2 of the price I've been quoted to rebuild the Six cylinder version of the Bosch-licensed VE-style IP.

$550 is about what the Four cylinder version costs to have rebuilt. I recently paid $630 to rebuild what is Bosch-licensed to Denso version of the VE IP, on Tom Sigmond's Toyota PU.

[dieseldorf]

I could not find any business in "Yellow Pages" by that name in SE Portland.
There is one in NE PDX, at Vancouver Way Blvd. however, their price for a rebuild is over a grand.
UPDATE: I went to that place and asked about a price for Maxima IP overhaul. They quoted me $550 for a basic job, if there is not much hardware to be replaced.
They could not be more specific unless they take the pump apart. I think this is the place 240Z is talking about.
Diesel Fuel Injection
8922 NE Vancouver Way
Portland, OR 97211
503-235-1947

[Radio]

Don't forget Northern Factors, a close neighbor also on Vancouver Way in north Portland. They gave me a four-cyl VE quote of near $1000 USD.

--Radio

[asavage]

I went to that place and asked about a price for Maxima IP overhaul. They quoted me $550 for a basic job, if there is not much hardware to be replaced.
They could not be more specific unless they take the pump apart.

Diesel Fuel Injection
8922 NE Vancouver Way
Portland, OR 97211
503-235-1947

NE Vancouver Wy is North Portland, so it may be the place all of you are talking about.

$550 is pretty cheap, esp. for a Six VE-style IP. For a re-seal and recalibrate it's about right, but if you need a plunger, feed pump, overflow valve or distributor head the price should jump considerably.

H&H Diesel in Milton, WA did a nice job (IMO) on that Toyota 2L (Denso-licensed Bosch VE IP) I had rebuilt a couple of months ago, for $623 after tax. Other than the poor packing job on return, anyway.

In the past, I have received quotes of $800-1200 for having the Maxima's IP rebuilt -- carry-in price, not R&R.

[ronin]

Any word on the quality of work from Diesel Fuel Injection Service? Also, to double check you are having them reseal it to be better suited to bio-fuel correct?

Thanks,

Eric

[240ZD]

Well, the folks at the diesel shop told me that the inside of my IP was pitted and rusted, and full of a lot of sludgy, accumulated crap. It had sat around a salvage yard for about 7 years or more before I started it up, and maybe rusted inside.

They said it was so bad that they could'nt believe the engine was still running at all...which it had been quickly ceasing to do, and leaking diesel out of every single orifice and portal between the inner IP and the outside world.

The rebuilders told me that I would be much better off finding another pump to rebuild/reseal, and I ended up purchasing asavage's spare NEW pump instead, and skipped a rebuild.

So no report on the quality and/or true price of a rebuild by those folks, although I can say that it took them a ridiculously long time to open the thing up and tell me it was unrebuildable...like a month.

They couldn't tell me if they use viton or what, but said that they have had very good reports by people using biofuels, no leaks or anything.

SO good luck to all those rebuilding their IPs!

[RT]

Hi all you lot over there in the USA, its been a while since I replied to anything, but wow! you do have to pay heaps to get an I.P. rebuilt! Ten months ago I had a LD28 pump rebuilt (clean out, new viton seals to handle WVO/biodiesel, mate with a LD20T pump top aneroid turbo boost diaphragm top housing assembly ( that was seized) & calibrate) to suit my LD28 running 12 PSI boost for $400 Australian dollars! I just got some local business called "Total Fuel Injection Service" to do it on advise from a friend. it was obviously good advise! I have a picture of it before I installed it to post if anyone is interested?

Richard in Perth, Aust.

[goglio704]

Yes, pictures please. Underhood shots too if you have them. What does your LD28 reside in? (great info to add to your signature)

[asavage]

Richard, if your guy will do overseas orders, I'd be interested in having one of my LD28 IPs modified as you had yours done.

[RT]

Sorry been too busy to reply till now, We have been trying to get the photos you requested posted, but was so long since the last lot of turbo installation pics that we can't remember how, except that it was through photo bucket. We have a friend that helped us last time so we'll get their help again.
I also had another LD28 I.P done by him for $100 which was the one replaced by the turbo one mentioned previously. I origionally had bought the LD20 T one off a dead motor, (eight years ago in NZ) with the mod of marrying the two planned for the future. We moved to Perth 6 1/2 years ago. The original one developed problems of; when running on WVO, it would cause detonation when accelerating, but if you very light/slowly accelerated, it was ok. So the Turbo one replaced this and I left the old one with him to check out what the problem was as I wanted to know if the WVO was the cause of the fault? He said he would check it for free. When he had checked it, he decided to fix it too, as it was a simple fault with a (forgot the name of) _____? piston seized and this was just as common with IP's on petrolium diesel, according to him. It may (I would presume) have had new seals through it too. So its now wrapped up in a tough plastic bag ready to use again with a clean bill of health, so I would presume its been on the test bed and had the parameters and flow rates checked and set! Pretty good for $100!
About the overseas orders. Will find out for you ASAP. Will help as I can as I previously said that you are paying a lot!
Oh, and giglio 704 asked what my ride is, its a 1972 Datsun 240C (P230 series) which should be renamed (I think) "280 DTI" (diesel turbo intercooled), will post pics of it too.
Richard.

[RT]

Oh, forgot to say, asavage, you may have to track down a LD20T pump yourself to get the top anaroid valve housing etc? I'll check that a new one may be available through my guy's contacts or I may be able to get my brother to track one down in NZ?

[RT]

Well after much trying, We still can't figure out the process to attach photos to this site & our friend who helped us last time is too busy at present and may be able to help next weekend. Help! if you want them quicker than that? I gather that the icon above, under "Message Body, (Img) Insert image", is what I need to use to do this?
I do have some answers from Kim Rule, at Total Fuel Injection Service. Email:
startwel@iinet.com.au
Address: 3/10 Macadam Place,
Balcatta,
Perth,
Western Australia.
He is happy to do pump reconditions for any of you and wanted me to make sure you knew that they were not a total recondition, but a clean out all components, new seals throughout, and calibrated on the test bench. If new mechanical components were needed, they would be extra and subject to the current prices at the time.
I've found out the name of the component that was seized in the $100 fix up IP, it's the "Transfer Pressure Regulator Piston". The pump was put on the test bench to diagnose the problem only, fault fixed only and put together without new seals, as the seals in what he took apart to fix the fault was still OK, then recheck in test bed. So it was just a simple fix the fault.
The availability of the LD20 IP top assembly and internal components necessary for the mod to a LD28 IP, are not available through Kim Rule at T.F.I.Services, but my brother may be able to track one down in NZ but it may take a while. So I suggest what my Bro suggested to me; "Trade Me" the hugely popular buy and sell New Zealand web site. You can subscribe yourself to buy and sell, or just browse for what you want and inform me and I'll get my Bro to buy it and pick it up from Christchurch city area only, on your behalf. But because of possible delays getting the message through, time to buy, pickup $ transfer etc, I suggest you do it yourself if possible? You will be surprised at what is available, search on the site for what you want, there are generally pictures of the items available, or post in the wanted section.

[asavage]

Read this thread for information on posting images.

I can occasionally find the IP for the turbocharged VW engine in the Volvo here. It has (I think) the top cover with aneroid.

[RT]

Yeah, it never rains, it pours! just had a busted clutch this week, so I've got all my weekend cut out now fixing it. Will get Turbo pic's on asap?